Free Agents

Ok, so forgive me if this has been stated somewhere, but I was wondering how we were going to handle Free Agency in Season 1? After the first season I believe it becomes a bidding process, but right off the bat anybody is able to sign anybody. Most leagues I've seen are either doing a FA draft (either by team overalls or randomizer) or their own internal bidding process.

RVallee wrote:Ok, so forgive me if this has been stated somewhere, but I was wondering how we were going to handle Free Agency in Season 1? After the first season I believe it becomes a bidding process, but right off the bat anybody is able to sign anybody. Most leagues I've seen are either doing a FA draft (either by team overalls or randomizer) or their own internal bidding process.

This is a good argument Vallee.

I would think to go with a bid also for Free agents froms season 1. We are used to do so, also from season one.
But want to hear the league ideas.

We will likely start the season right after the releases of first roster update with the FA bid war

there is no way to hold a bidding war as the players will sign for what they want.

best is to just hold a draft for 1 or 2 rounds based on team overalls.

tru11 wrote:there is no way to hold a bidding war as the players will sign for what they want.

best is to just hold a draft for 1 or 2 rounds based on team overalls.

this is why i hate EA...with xfn would was possible...

Mani wrote:

tru11 wrote:there is no way to hold a bidding war as the players will sign for what they want.

best is to just hold a draft for 1 or 2 rounds based on team overalls.

this is why i hate EA...with xfn would was possible...

yeah for first season i suggest a draft. for 2 rounds and afterwards no signings unless is for injuries.
also maybe max 3 FA signings a season during the season and only for special circumstances ???

it will preserve a decend FA pool i guess lol

mmm...could be a great base...

One of my other leagues did a point system (on their forum). Each team is given 15 points and you bid on players with those points. I won a MLB with 8 pts, a FB with 1 pt and a FS with 3 pts.

It's an option, although I like the draft idea better. Do the teams from worst overall and do a draft. Bad thing with that is it might take a week or 2 if it's just a forum draft.

After the initial FA surge, it should be a free for all for FA's. If you have a need somewhere and want to sign someone you should be able to do so. It isn't that big of deal since there will hardly be any good FA's during the regular season. Also, after the cut down days there may be some good FA's available. And in real life most street FA's sign with the first team that shows interest anyways.

just wondering a few things I was trying to figure out

1. with xfn not supporting madden this year how are we gonna do the salary cap and stuff like that.

2. after the 1st year i dont think we will be able to do bidding either based on xfn not supporting madden 13

rascrush wrote:just wondering a few things I was trying to figure out

1. with xfn not supporting madden this year how are we gonna do the salary cap and stuff like that.

2. after the 1st year i dont think we will be able to do bidding either based on xfn not supporting madden 13

1. I believe it's handled in the game itself, or possible on the EA site, which is supposed to act like a "super" version of what XFN did (although right now it currently sucks)

2. From what I understand AFTER the 1st season (basically the 1st offseason) you bid on players just like the bidding you're familiar with from xfn. You make offers to players and they weigh them and eventually sign with whatever team they choose (based on the offer and the team)

Problem is the 1st season it isn't by bid, they will just accept anyone's deal. So really, the first 5 teams that join the league could sign all the really good FA's just because they were first there. That's why we need to either have a bid on them or a draft, so everyone has a shot and getting a halfway decent FA.

season can be only started when all 32 teams are in the league.
but those who are online when the stuff is started would have the advantage.

i still say draft is easiest and most fair way to go around.

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good one mani. the only advice and input i have is why not a rendom draft. put all the teams in a hat and draw the draft order. i believe it would be more fair. Because if you go by a teams overall, then an owner with the worst team might be a great player over a player that has the best team that could be the worst palyer. understand what i am saying? I hope so. because i for example have a pretty good team and yet im believe im below average skill level so if we did it by team overall i dont think it would be fair. This is just my opionion.

montes wrote:good one mani. the only advice and input i have is why not a rendom draft. put all the teams in a hat and draw the draft order. i believe it would be more fair. Because if you go by a teams overall, then an owner with the worst team might be a great player over a player that has the best team that could be the worst palyer. understand what i am saying? I hope so. because i for example have a pretty good team and yet im believe im below average skill level so if we did it by team overall i dont think it would be fair. This is just my opionion.

I understand what you're saying, but I think it's a situation where of course the lower OVR teams will want it by OVR and the higher OVR teams are going to want a random order lol.

My opinion is it should be based on OVR just like in a normal draft. Regardless of user skill, it wouldn't honestly seem fair to me if GB ends up first, NE ends up second, SF picking third, which could honestly happen if we go random. And its not just because I'm MIN lol.

I understand that. Just thought i would put my opinion ourt there

How much of a teams OVL is ea manipulated or even head coach based?.......
Ive found more recently that When I start a new CC as a coach... And i take over The Patriots... They are 85, Play Now Patriots online roster is 91, same exact personnel.....
If I take over as a CC the steelers or GB... They are 86'
Eagles are 85, and play now ratting similar as well..

Also when looking over team selection for CC there is a ratting directly for Offence and Defence, this could also be considered as a better roster tallent indication based on the personnel

Team OVL rattings are completely manipulated by EA based on last years performance...
We all know how bad the patriots defence and tallent on d is....

I'm all for a draft based on a teams personnel rattings, and the lesser talented teams pick first
But the play now ratting isn't a tru indication of the teams roster quality.

Eg Patriots play now 91, take over as CC 85
Jets are ratted 82 play now, and also 82 if u take them over as a CC
Eagles loaded a lot more in tallent but have a lesser play now than a chunk of teams

This also leads into thought for letting people take over a pre-existing coach carrear.......

1 Rams - Jeff Otah (RT)
2 Vikings - Nick Collins (SS)
3 Colts - Luis Castillo (RE)
4 Browns - Merriman (RE)
5 Dolphins - David Johnson (FB)
6 Raiders - James Farrior (MLB)
7 Skins - EJ Henderson (MLB)
8 Jaguars - Jonathon Goff (MLB)
9 Cardinals - Duke Robinson (RG)
10 Buccs - Plaxico Burress (WR)
11 Panthers - Chris Johnson (CB)
12 Chiefs - Aaron Berry (CB)
13 Seahawks - SKIPPED
14 Bills - Jeremy Shockey (TE)
15 Titans - Jeff Faine (C)
16 Jets - Shawn Nelson (TE)
17 Bears - John Henderson (DT)
18 Chargers - Andre Carter (DE)
19 Bengals - Roy Williams (HB)
20 Falcons - Gary Brackett (MLB)
21 Broncos - Melvin Bullit (SS)
22 Cowboys - Jake Scott (RG)
23 Saints - SKIPPED
24 Eagles - Mike Williams (WR)
25 Lions - Lofa Tatupu (MLB)
26 Steelers - Goodman (CB)
27 Texans - Chase Blackburn (MLB)
28 Ravens - Brodney Poole
29 Giants - PASSED
30 49ers - Matthew Mulligan (TE)
31 Patriots
32 Packers


I totally agree Bretty. I play with the Lions in 2 other leagues and between leagues and Play Now I've seen about 4 different ratings for them. This is a list from one of my other leagues, it was changed once, the initial list was default rosters I believe, this one was the more updated roster list from CCM. I think it more resembles the Play now ratings cause the first list the Lions were #14 and the updated dropped them all the way to # 25. Also I left the actual FA picks in there to give you guys an idea of who is there for those who haven't started a CC yet.

I'm not saying we use this list, just an example.

dont use play now lol.

its completly seperated from CC.

best is to just wait till updated rosters.

Mani or log should then start a offline CC and pick an existing HC and right there where they can pick a team they can see the default roster overalls and based on that they can make a proper list we can go by.

its very easy to determine.

Now when you make your own HC and pick a scheme the overalls will be influnced for your team but this should be disregarded as really the roster is the same lol.

just go by default settings for an exsisting HC and there will be no issue.

there is the issue of the salay cap as well, its in the options for the league creator to turn on or off this year..you wont be able to sing a ton of guys if youre capped out...

cap should be on from the start.
dont think you can turn it on later otherwise.

tru11 wrote:cap should be on from the start.
dont think you can turn it on later otherwise.

exactly

IMO we should do a 2round FA draft, were the team picking 1st picks 64thdraft with the NFL draft order.

RVallee wrote:1 Rams - Jeff Otah (RT)
2 Vikings - Nick Collins (SS)
3 Colts - Luis Castillo (RE)
4 Browns - Merriman (RE)
5 Dolphins - David Johnson (FB)
6 Raiders - James Farrior (MLB)
7 Skins - EJ Henderson (MLB)
8 Jaguars - Jonathon Goff (MLB)
9 Cardinals - Duke Robinson (RG)
10 Buccs - Plaxico Burress (WR)
11 Panthers - Chris Johnson (CB)
12 Chiefs - Aaron Berry (CB)
13 Seahawks - SKIPPED
14 Bills - Jeremy Shockey (TE)
15 Titans - Jeff Faine (C)
16 Jets - Shawn Nelson (TE)
17 Bears - John Henderson (DT)
18 Chargers - Andre Carter (DE)
19 Bengals - Roy Williams (HB)
20 Falcons - Gary Brackett (MLB)
21 Broncos - Melvin Bullit (SS)
22 Cowboys - Jake Scott (RG)
23 Saints - SKIPPED
24 Eagles - Mike Williams (WR)
25 Lions - Lofa Tatupu (MLB)
26 Steelers - Goodman (CB)
27 Texans - Chase Blackburn (MLB)
28 Ravens - Brodney Poole
29 Giants - PASSED
30 49ers - Matthew Mulligan (TE)
31 Patriots
32 Packers


I totally agree Bretty. I play with the Lions in 2 other leagues and between leagues and Play Now I've seen about 4 different ratings for them. This is a list from one of my other leagues, it was changed once, the initial list was default rosters I believe, this one was the more updated roster list from CCM. I think it more resembles the Play now ratings cause the first list the Lions were #14 and the updated dropped them all the way to # 25. Also I left the actual FA picks in there to give you guys an idea of who is there for those who haven't started a CC yet.

I'm not saying we use this list, just an example.

Where are the Redskins on that list?

Pya-Mustang86 wrote:

RVallee wrote:1 Rams - Jeff Otah (RT)
2 Vikings - Nick Collins (SS)
3 Colts - Luis Castillo (RE)
4 Browns - Merriman (RE)
5 Dolphins - David Johnson (FB)
6 Raiders - James Farrior (MLB)
7 Skins - EJ Henderson (MLB)
8 Jaguars - Jonathon Goff (MLB)
9 Cardinals - Duke Robinson (RG)
10 Buccs - Plaxico Burress (WR)
11 Panthers - Chris Johnson (CB)
12 Chiefs - Aaron Berry (CB)
13 Seahawks - SKIPPED
14 Bills - Jeremy Shockey (TE)
15 Titans - Jeff Faine (C)
16 Jets - Shawn Nelson (TE)
17 Bears - John Henderson (DT)
18 Chargers - Andre Carter (DE)
19 Bengals - Roy Williams (HB)
20 Falcons - Gary Brackett (MLB)
21 Broncos - Melvin Bullit (SS)
22 Cowboys - Jake Scott (RG)
23 Saints - SKIPPED
24 Eagles - Mike Williams (WR)
25 Lions - Lofa Tatupu (MLB)
26 Steelers - Goodman (CB)
27 Texans - Chase Blackburn (MLB)
28 Ravens - Brodney Poole
29 Giants - PASSED
30 49ers - Matthew Mulligan (TE)
31 Patriots
32 Packers


I totally agree Bretty. I play with the Lions in 2 other leagues and between leagues and Play Now I've seen about 4 different ratings for them. This is a list from one of my other leagues, it was changed once, the initial list was default rosters I believe, this one was the more updated roster list from CCM. I think it more resembles the Play now ratings cause the first list the Lions were #14 and the updated dropped them all the way to # 25. Also I left the actual FA picks in there to give you guys an idea of who is there for those who haven't started a CC yet.

I'm not saying we use this list, just an example.

Where are the Redskins on that list?

7?????

some people use "Skins" as short for Redskins....like Buccs instead of buccaneers, so you don't have to write the whole thing out. Most people somewhat knowledgeable in football know this.