Discussion on Expiring Contracts

The following trade are invalid under the 'No trading resigned players' rule

Houston trades J. Watt & D.Sharpton to San Francisco for
N. Bowman.

Detroit trades B. Pettigrew to Minnesota for Chris Cook.

These are invalid because N. Bowman and B. Pettigrew are out of contract after this season and therefore can't be traded.

Thanks JR,

I am yet to go over all previous trades,
I appreciate the Help, especially if you audit all trades/
As its Monday Morning for Me give me 10 hours and i will get onto it when i get home tonight

No problem buddy, these late kickoffs are a bit boring so I checked over some things.

hahah I'm at work, Watching Pats,
I'm just Trying to stop Noise Complaints from the Office for Noise

So, we can't trade players in the last year of their contract?

Mani will Be Announcing how he wants to handle S2 Expiring Contracts.

Nope. Basically if you go to the strategy page, then salaries. Any of your players that have 1 year left on their contracts can't be resigned then traded, they 'must' be on your roster for the entire 2013 season before they can be traded.

So these 1 year player are either resigned or be allowed to hit free agency.

The idea of this rule is so there is a good free agent pool each season much like real life and to prevent people getting picks/players from players they had no intention on keeping on their team for next season.

Ok, I just wasn't aware of the rule, that's fine.

My two cents is, I agree about restricting people from trading people who won't resign. I disagree on a rule only to buff up the FA pool, since the game essentially does that this year on its own. You will not be able to resign everybody in the last year of the contract.

I'm pretty sure Pettigrew was signed during the season which would make him eligible to be traded, same with Merriweather. I don't think the contracts screen updates till after the season. No way I can imagine Logan not resigning Pettigrew during the season.

Pya-Mustang86 wrote:I'm pretty sure Pettigrew was signed during the season which would make him eligible to be traded, same with Merriweather. I don't think the contracts screen updates till after the season. No way I can imagine Logan not resigning Pettigrew during the season.

I could be totally wrong but I dont think Pettigrew falls under this. I have Lions in 2 other franchises and I dont remember having to resign him in either. I won't be on ps3 until tomorrow, maybe Logan can discount double check that.

I'm pretty sure Pettigrew was signed during the season which would make him eligible to be traded, same with Merriweather. I don't think the contracts screen updates till after the season

actually this.

If we resigned players during the season 1 - they still should be untradable for season 2. We should use this rule to everyone who resigned a contract during whole s1 (doesn't matter if its day 1 or before FA signature). Only then this rule has meaning.

Contracts update during the season as for me Rey Maualuga was in his last year and now he has a number of years left on the contracts screen.

I personally checked both Merriweather and Pettigrew and they have 1 year remaining, which means they'll expire once we hit the post season.

Bowman have 2 years left.

Mani wrote:
Bowman have 2 years left.

Sorry buddy, Ur Wong,
1 year, left,

2012 cap hit is 660k,
2013 cap hit is 0$

So he needs to resign...

JR is right on the other two

Hey Guys,
S2 Trades Happened all too Quickly...
We have Forgotten a rule adopted M12, Last Years Madden Rule on
Trading of Player with Expiring Contracts

Any Player with an Expiring Contract CanNot Be Traded in the offseason, As they Need to Be Re-Signed
You Can work this out by Looking at the Players Contact Value

Every Player Who has No Contact Value in the 2013 Line Come End of Regular Season in the "Strategy" - "Team Salaries" Table has no Contract for 2013 and CanNot Be Traded in the offseason.
These Players can be traded up to the trade deadline in week9'

The reasoning is IRL a team wouldn't resign a player only to then move that player just after.

Im Sorry for the S2 trades that have been previously agree'd on that will be voided because of this

Season1 Trades are based on trade done in Pre-Season-Start of Week9,
End Of Superbowl Week is the End of Season 1
Any Trades that are discussed and Posted beyond Week9 Trade is Deadline is a trade to be done in the following Season,

Moving Forward No Official Trades will be Officially Posted Until the Finish of all Regular Season Games.

Below are All Examples of Players the will be Either
1)Re-Signed and Non Tradable S2
2)Let to Hit FA

EG), (We all know Welker isn't Signed on for Next Year)
Wes Welker,
Length =1,
Remaining =1,
2012 Cap Hit =$9.5mil
2013 Cap Hit=$0

EG)
B.Pettigrew
Length = 5
Remaining = 1
2012 Cap Hit =$2.59mil
2013 Cap Hit =$0

EG)
N,Bowman
Length =4
Remaining =1
2012 Cap Hit = $660k
2013 Cap Hit = $0

This is Something that has been discussed by Mani and Put Into Affect By Mani
Thank You For All Your Understanding,


Before People all Mention 1 particular trade that has Happened,
Mani has chosen 1 Particular Trade that is Exempt from this Expiring Rule
This trade doesn't Involve him. but involved two teams swapping,

The Eagles - Dolphin Trade has been made Exempt

The team swap is too far in to affect,
There are trades made post team swap involving those two teams have been made from new team owners.


For Discussions on this Exemption Please Discuss with Mani
Not Me as I'm just the Messenger and have had No part of the Decision Making Process

RVallee wrote:maybe Logan can discount double check that.

I see what you did there

I always thought teams traded players more in the last year of their contract?! Don't they?

Lord_Deniki wrote:I always thought teams traded players more in the last year of their contract?! Don't they?

I think that trading players in the last year of their contract should be allowed, but that has to happen before the trade deadline of that season. So in, say, Wes Welker's case, he should be tradable up to the trade deadline. It is and should be the responsibility of the owner who is trading FOR him to recognize that he is not signed beyond the rest of that season and may in fact just be "renting" him for the remainder of the season, or have plans to franchise tag him at the end of the year to lock him up for another year.

But in the case of the trades that were agreed to after the trade deadline that won't go into affect until the start of season 2, obviously those are invalid as those players will no longer belong to the team trying to trade them if season 1 is the last year of their contract.

Again, probably a case of trying to jump the gun on trades for next season before this one is officially over (and I'm as guilty as anyone).

Lord_Deniki wrote:I always thought teams traded players more in the last year of their contract?! Don't they?

Yes, ironically enough, this is exactly what happens, although NFL trades are alot more rare than Madden lgs. Especially when contract talks have went nowhere lol. I understand why the rule is in place, especially in regards to the trade glitch, but ill say again, the FA pool will be fine as far as talent.

GUYS,

We discussed a lot with Bretty to make the best.

And EA system help us. The trade deadline is our guide. We decided that all the trades operated in the regular season for the expiring player, BEFORE the trade deadline, are allowed.


If you wait the offseason with an expiring players you have only two choice.

resign him or leave him to the FA pool.

And if you resign him, you can't trade him BEFORE the draft, to gain an advantage on picks or players.

The trade will be allowed from week1 of the next season.

For any doubt you can ask to me.

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I WILL MOVE THIS TOPIC THERE IN FEW DAYS.

Sorry, I amended to make it clearer.

You can trade a player in the last year of his contract, Yes the other team has to re-sign him or loose him, all of that can happen all the way up to trade deadline in week9.
You can't trade an expiring player in the offseason as that player needs to be resigned to make the trade

Also Remember below:
(Trading a Player who has Rejected a Deal is not allowed unless every1 cleary understands he has rejected a deal befor as that player wont give his new team a chance to resign him befor hitting FA.)

After the Super Bowl is defined as the start of the new season and it starts in the resigning stage, and any player with out a 2013 cap hit is in a way a "restricted FA" We are stopping resigning and then tradding these type of guys,

For Example Bowman,

imagine Mani resigns him for some crazy amount of money just to make sure he is not to loose him,
You then have to wear his crazy salary as he is traded to lordD

Imagine if he reject a deal from mani, cause mani didnt pay enough to minimise cap hit,
that one time resigning deal after the super bowl and he walks strait to FA,

Lord is expecting the rights to him but mani doesn't have them as he is now a FA

do u get cap pens for trades